Apparently, a Clinton campaign volunteer got the Obama chain mail and proceeded to forward it to some friends. Eight friends to be precise. Judy Rose, who is also a Democratic Party official in Jones County, Iowa, forwarded it (without any comment) to give them an example of “dirty politics“.
The Clinton campaign never asked Rose if she supported the chain letter or not, they simply asked for her resignation.
What does the mystery email say?
The e-mail that Rose forwarded points out that Obama’s father and stepfather were Muslim and that Obama lived in Indonesia for part of his childhood. But other parts of the e-mail are false - Obama attended public and Catholic schools in Indonesia, not a radical Islamic school. It is also not true that Obama used the Quran instead of the Bible when sworn into office or that he ever “admitted” to being a Muslim.
I’ll dig around my deleted mail box and post more details of the chain letters content. I received a version of this “hate” spam several months ago but because it instantly made my eyes burn from the massive amount of mistruths it contained, I naturally dumped it.
UPDATE at 12/5/07 8:02:47 pm:
Here’s the chain message circulating about Obama. Brace yourself and pay special attention to the ridiculous CAPITALIZATION usage:
*Subject:* **Who is Barack Obama?**
*_Most_* of this appears to be true! *I shutter to
think!! *Scary guy!**We checked this out on ’snopes.com’. It is factual.
Check for yourself. ***
*If you do not ever forward anything else, please forward
this to all your contacts…this is very scary to think of what lies
ahead of us here in our own United States…better heed this and
pray
about it and share it.THIS DEFINITELY WARRANTS LOOKING INTO. THIS COUNTRY WAS
FOUNDED, ‘ONE NATION UNDER GOD’. ALMIGHTY GOD, NOT THE GOD OF THE
KORAN.We checked this out on ’snopes.com’. It is factual.
Check for yourself.Who is Barack Obama?
Probable U. S. presidential candidate, Barack Hussein
Obama was born in Honolulu , Hawaii , to Barack Hussein Obama,
Sr., a black MUSLIM from Nyangoma-Kogel , Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white
ATHEIST from Wichita , Kansas .Obama’s parents met at the University of Hawaii . When
Obama was two years old, his parents divorced. His father
returned to Kenya . His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from
Indonesia . When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocated to
Indonesia . Obama attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta . He also
spent two years in a Catholic school.
Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a
Muslim. He is quick to point out that, ‘He was once a Muslim,
but that he also attended Catholic school.’Obama’s political handlers are attempting to make it
appear that Obama’s introduction to Islam came via his father,
and that
this influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama
returned to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any
direct influence over his son’s education.Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama’s mother, Ann
Dunham, introduced his stepson to Islam Obama was enrolled in a
Wahabi school in Jakarta .Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the
Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western
world. Since it is politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking
major public office in the United States , Barack Hussein Obama has
joined the United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim
background.
ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office he DID NOT
use the Holy Bible, but instead the Koran (Their equivalency to our
Bible, but very different beliefs)Let us all remain alert concerning Obama’s expected
presidential candidacy.The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the U.S.
from the inside out, what better way to start than at the
highest level
- through the President of the United States , one of their own!!!!Please forward to everyone you know. Would you want this
man leading our country?…… NOT ME!!!
UPDATE at 1/8/08 10:09:47 pm:
The three most important questions about Barack Obama are answered here. Is Obama a Muslim? Did Obama swear on the Koran?
Popularity: 18% [?]
December 5th, 2007 at 8:55 pm
Wow. That’s all I have to say at the moment.
December 8th, 2007 at 2:32 pm
Um…the pope used to be part of the Hitler Youth but that didn’t stop him from being elected, and that is the truth!!!
I like the part that he used the Koran….if that’s true that’s what was personal to him and that he believes. The Bible wouldn’t have as much meaning for him.
He was put into a radical islamic school as a child…well, he’s an adult now, who made choices to be a politician rather than jihadist…(I’m sure there was a bomb load of irony there).
“THIS DEFINITELY WARRANTS LOOKING INTO. THIS COUNTRY WAS
FOUNDED, ‘ONE NATION UNDER GOD’. ALMIGHTY GOD, NOT THE GOD OF THE
KORAN.” (taken from the article above as an excerpt of the email)
This kind of drivel is propogated by the far-right nuts who are so ignorant they don’t realize Allah is the same God as the christians believe in.
As for the Christian side….Jehovah’s Witnessess terrorize me every Saturday morning, but they’re allowed to go among their business…
I think Mitt has it right and it’s about time it’s put to use in our government….that even despite his own personal religious beliefs, it won’t have any influence over his political decisions (I hear the hallelujah chorus playing!)
This kind of ignorance irritates me to no end. Wahabbism is akin to the Jewish Kabbalah deal. It’s about the mystic side of the religion.
We see the bad in Islam, however Christianity ain’t no angel either…read your Bible a bit closer, though Christianity changed through the times (through social aspects and the such) Christianities past rings loud and clear of the same stuff a lot of what we’re shown on television about Islam.
Oh, and how many of our parents won parent of the year??? We’re adults and one day we wake up and make decisions for ourself on who we are and what we believe. That’s what is important here.
Again, we repeat our past….how quickly we forget the hatred we had to anyone of Japanese descent from WWII…now Muslims are the new Japanese in the hate department.
Ibn Sina (Avicenna), the great-grandaddy of modern medicine was a Muslim…
Sulayyamin (sp?) is in the Bible….Christianity called him King Solomon.
Musa…Moses
Isa-Jesus
Paraclete is a name used in Christianity….Muslims called him Mohammed.
Ismael: Ishmael
Nuh: Noah
….and my list goes on….
To those who live in complete and utter ignorance…you share your religion with Judaism, Islam, and so many more. You’re beliefs may be different, but you believe in the same great creator. Embrace the likenesses instead of the differences.
A man should be judged on what he’s done and does rather than how he was raised.
I could keep going on, but I think anyone still reading this must be bored because everyone else fell asleep halfway through this!!!
December 17th, 2007 at 2:02 pm
Are you crazy or simply bias on your understanding of Religions. There was no hint or report of violence caused by Christianity until the Roman Empire took over the leadership and turned it into a repressive system that killed Christians who won’t bow their beliefs to it. Islam from its infancy has practiced and taught violence. The first 300 years of Christianity are filled with amazing stories of people who live in peace and died without attempting to kill their attackers. There is a big difference between Christ’s Teachings and Organized Christian Religions like the Catholic Church. I am a believer in Christ and the teachings of the Apostles. They warned about people misusing Christianity for their evil purposes. Your twisting of word meanings is a common tactic used by some Muslims who twisted their meaning to promote their teachings. Solomon was not a Muslim and paraclete is not Mohammed. It is the Holy Spirit and he will be live in us and stay with us forever unlike a man. I have heard this and it is very wrong. Look at the definition and it is clearly the Holy Spirit who also part of the Godhead. The ancient text is very clear in it definitions and you can not translate it to mean anything else. Plus Islams was founded by one man unlike our beliefs based on 1,500 years of scriptures and 40 different authors in harmony with each other. All other religions always based their teachings on the revelation on one man. Christ was the accumulation of hundreds of prophecies predicated years before him and by many authors. Islam borrowed it teachings from the Pagan worship of the Moon God, Judaism and other teachings. We do not believe in the same Creator. You deny that Christ rose from the Dead plus there is no grace in Islam just dread of violence. Seek the Truth for it defends itself because it the word of God which will never pass away. Men may mocked it and twisted it but in the end of time, it will be your judge.
December 17th, 2007 at 6:21 pm
Well, first off, I’m not Muslim. I was raised a Christian, but I don’t believe in the politics so God and I have other arrangements. I’d like to clear up a few points you made while backing it up by historical fact.
The Holy Trinity: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. There is no mention of the three has the Holy Trinity making Jesus an immortal part of the three until Constantine. The Council of Nicea decided which books should be included and the inclusion of the Holy Trinity as three seperate entities yet one being.
Not all Muslims believe in jihad and the hatred of those not Muslim….Not all Christians believe in the crusades and the eternal damnation of those not Christian…
Christianity is also wrought with old religious ideas. I refuse to use the word paganism because that would infer to the modern movement of corrupted ancient religions. The pre-Judaic religions influence is quite notably entrenched in Christianity…I’m not going to go too in depth here, but look to the pre-Christian European and pre-islamic Middle Eastern beliefs. I’d also like to add that Christianity was Judaic in it’s purest form, however, it included the teachings of Jesus to null some of the old testament rules and to provide new guidelines and truths untold before in the Judaic religion.
Islam believes in Jesus and the things he did. However, along with Judaism, Jesus the immortal isn’t believed. Judaism, depending on the sect, may or may not believe in Jesus, due to the idea of his immortality. Islam’s Allah is the same God you believe in. The only difference is that each choose to believe differently, however, still they believe in the same God. Hispanic Catholics call him Dios, Yahweh in Hebrew…is the name that much of a point of contention for you that you would deny hispanics and hebrews the right to believe in the same God you do?
“A rose by any other name would smell as sweet, so Romeo would if he were not Romeo called.” ~Shakespeare.
The politics of man have corrupted every religion, some more than less and vice versa. The point is that acceptance of others despite race, religion, or creedo is not only a right based on our constitution, but something Jesus himself taught us…to love one another…that includes everyone. For according to your beliefs, we were all created by “the one true God,” then a Muslim, a Jew, a Buddhist, an Anglican, a Mormon…etc…are all the same children of God you should treat as well as you would like to be treated.
You can believe whatever you want….free will, what an amazing gift.
Finally, I don’t care what anyone believes…take out the political b.s., the power hungry human b.s., the religious man’s (priest, imam, rabbi, etc..) rhetoric…the basic beliefs are still the same…we believe in one great Creator, be good to each other, learn from your mistakes, have compassion, pity, and fairness for others, be the bigger person, etc…
You have to look outside of the beliefs that you were raised on (whether you believe the same way or not) and see from an unbiased point of view that the world doesn’t revolve around any one of our religious, political, personal…beliefs. Who’s to say I’m not wrong??? I only back up my statements by historical facts, and as we all know, history can be re-written to meet the goals of the government financing it!
Your beliefs mean a lot to you and it’s fantastic that you are so steadfast in them. I have no want to compare religious politics with you. That’s akin to singing the song that never ends…
Mitt Romney is Mormon, is he evil too???
Zoroastrianism is based on the beliefs of one man. The Anglican sect of Christianity was created by Henry VIII, The Mormon religion was based on the beliefs of one man…etc.
I could care less where a man/woman comes from or what he/she believes…I’m more interested in his action..as doing what’s right for the people. Plain and simple.
I don’t understand how we can condemn one another based on personal beliefs. Isn’t it about time we realize we all came from the same primordial ooze (ha, bad joke), build a bridge and get over it??
December 18th, 2007 at 10:55 am
There is mention that Jesus is in the Trinity it’s called the New Testament of the Bible. It was written long before Constantine was alive. I am seeking the truth. I hope Obama is not Muslim. And I hope that he was not the one that used a Koran to be sworn in. He definitely won’t have my vote because if so he is embracing all that I am against.
December 18th, 2007 at 11:59 am
“There is mention that Jesus is in the Trinity it’s called the New Testament of the Bible. ”
Show me the scripture that says Jesus is part if a trinity. Which view of “The Trinity” do you hold. I have heard many.
December 18th, 2007 at 12:11 pm
I’m speaking of historical fact. It’s been shown that a greek/King James translation can mean the difference between turning over a new leaf and transforming (as in some magical transformation). What I speak of is the Council of Nicea (Nicene Creed anyone???) and Constantine’s reshaping of Christianity into it’s form that we know today. The idea of the Holy Trinity was made Christian dogma there. I’d also like to point out that they’re are many different versions of the Bible with many different translations, inclusions, and exclusions. Anything I’ve said is based on historical fact and research. It’s completely unbiased and is not intended to challenge anyone’s personal beliefs, but to make you think. Think outside the small, comfortable box you live in. You believe in the Trinity, that’s fantastic…why?? It’s personal to you and you put your faith in it. It may/may not be for me and plenty of others. Am I any less than you? You are no less than I, nor do I look upon anyone as such…hence my point that this isn’t about religious beliefs (description, definition, etc.) but the part of who cares what another believes.
ANYWAY…that’s not the flippin’ point. Does it really matter what or how you believe?? Do you care how your neighbor believes his religion?? He/she may love themselves some God too, but who are any of us to say someone else is wrong.
AS FOR THOSE who seem to know they’re right….how are you so sure?? Did God email you? Did he send you a text message?
-Ignorance is bred in fear and we fear that which we do not know.
(we may think we “know” all there is about certain people, but it takes a man to get his ass out from in front of the television and in front of books, researching, finding differing opinions (good and bad), multiple resources, etc…to find a better understanding.)
December 18th, 2007 at 12:14 pm
Forgot a bit…If you were Jewish, would you swear on the Christian Bible which holds only some meaning to you?? Or would you rather swear on the Torah, the “bible” that has much more meaning to you…which includes damnation if you swear on it and lie?
I’d rather see someone swear on something they have full faith in…otherwise you may as well swear on a copy of Mad Magazine!
December 18th, 2007 at 2:37 pm
First I respect the right that everyone should express their beliefs but not all opinions are the same I am off the main intent of the original comment but I wanted to refute the statements made by Olivia. My concern is that we need to take the time to research statements made by others so that we don’t fall for something that appears right but is so far from the truth. I like a good healthy debate on issues because it challenges me to think about my beliefs but I believe firmly in Truth being proven and tested. I believe in the Concept of the Trinity because from the first chapter of Genesis the concept of us is used by God and there is a constant interaction between the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit as separated personalities but always refer to as God. Check out the Gospels, Acts and the epistles. It is everywhere. Don’t believe me because I say but check it out with a open mind. I am shock by the angry expressed by the those opposed the concept of biblical truth and the possibility’s that our founding fathers believed that the bible and its teaching were important in the formation of our Country. They loved the concept where Christianity is practiced in hidden isolation from the public and they also insist that their version of morality is imposed on everyone. Their blogs are filled with profanity and hateful rants, they laugh at anyone who has a moral belief based on biblical principles. This is my last comment. Truth will defend itself and your opinion will not change reality. I love people but it does not mean I agree with everyone’s view of reality since there is only on one view of truth.
December 18th, 2007 at 3:22 pm
My two cents. First, Obama isn’t Muslim, so don’t fret children, the boogieman is not at our doorstep. However, if he was- so what? Some of the people I’ve served with overseas are Muslim, and they were fighting with us, not against us. Muslim doesn’t translate to “evil”, any more than any other religion does.
Now, it’s true the founding fathers were pretty much Christian white guys, and … well, that’s it. But if they intended our country to only be run by Christians, don’t you think they’d have written that down somewhere? Instead, they insisted on a separation of the church and state. Thomas Jefferson has had some amazing things (which I don’t have the time to look up right now, so google for yourselves) on keeping the church out of politics.
Now, do we want a moral person in office? Sure, but guess what- almost none of our politicians have been strong moral figures. Most of history is rife with the infidelities of those in the positions to be unfaithful.
Also, as for the bible being “Truth” with a capital T- that’s what you believe and that’s fine, but a majority of the world would disagree with you. You can’t completely disregard everyone who doesn’t follow your faith. And as for the anger and hate filled rants you speak of- a lot of that probably has to do with the fact that we don’t like being told we’re all evil and corrupt and are going to hell anymore than you would. So lay off the self-righteousness a little, and others will likely do the same. Oh, and the bible is a book. It was written by men. And other men chose how it would be edited. And other men after that had to translate it. And men after them translated it too. And so forth and so on- so there’s pro’lly a lot lost in the process. I believe in the infalability of god- but mankind, we’re as corrupt, misguided, and ridiculous as can be. If everyone believes they’re right and everyone else is wrong- someday the joke will be on someone, or everyone more likely. And it won’t be for any of us to judge.
end rant.
May 12th, 2008 at 5:51 pm
kiddies ; don’t you think oabout some of these childish comments you write? For instance badgering each other over religious priorities and holier than thou tactics! For approximately 22,000 years man has stood firmly on the belief that “his God was better than their God”and so the argument went over the centuries with much blood being spilled and innocent people put to death by “holy” people; and to this day it continues! Muslims being the most extreme of religious radicals.Bottom line youngsters— unless we get rid of all religions once and for all; we aint goin’ anywhere and our technology will will never amount to anything if we continue to let ourselves be controlled manipulated and murdered by religion. All we need to be able to live in peace is a moral code; not some book of fairy tales.